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Llwydcoed seems to be the preferred dumping ground

Llwydcoed seems to be the preferred dumping ground in Cynon Valley or should that be Rhondda Cynon Taf and beyond.

The new proposed opencast mine assume will go ahead although local community has launched an action group to fight plans to build an opencast mine.
Once again what will the planners and development control at RCTC do? Do they turn a blind eye and not think of the views of local residents? It has happened in the past
Can you get away with planning blight in Llwydcoed?

Has this application N0: 07/2220 - erection of new
Agricultural buildings (1,890 sqm) vehicular access and associated engineering works (amended plans received 23/10/08), Bryncarnau farm, Llwydcoed, Aberdare been started?

Cynon area Development Control Committee granted approval on 30 April 2009, thousands of tons of spoil dumped (photograph shows posted on the website May 21 2008 )to construct “The sheep housing is capable of accommodating 560 ewes”

Lots of spoil dumped in Llwydcoed but who cares not development control at RCTC as for conditions etc don’t believe what you read in planning documents

I think this is one of the conditions for the above

“Head of Terms
• That the applicant undertakes to fully implement the approved works within 3 years of the commencement of development.
• In the event that the applicant has not fully implemented the approved works within the time period specified above, that the applicant undertakes to remove all of the development carried out on the land and to restore the land to its former condition.”

Was the erection of agricultural building completed in the time scale?

Is the site a permanent dumping ground?

Were all conditions of the approval carried out?

The above was only a small enterprise what will happen the new proposed opencast mine?

I leave that up to the action group.

This process musts have been carried out. I just mention it in passing.

These developments must have an Environment Impact Assesment (EIA) which include a public consultation review of all relevant issues.

Its good to see the powers in the council are at work especially the Council’s Ecology Officer he’s got his finger on the pulse knows when to act.

Don’t forget Development Control all looking after our interests you can rely on them e-mail I received 24th March 2008

“Dear Sir / Madam

Thank you for your e-mail of 24th March 2008 regarding the area of land off Merthyr Road in Llwydcoed.

The Freedom of Information (FOI) Act is principally aimed at obtaining information that, traditionally, has not been available to the general public. The nature of information that you have requested is, and always has been, freely available from the Council’s Development Control (Planning) Service and is accessible through the Register of Planning Applications which is located in Sardis House in Pontypridd.

Notwithstanding this, the “Google Earth” photograph that you included with your request revealed the attached list of planning applications. It would therefore appear that no specific consent exists for the work that you say is being carried out. It will therefore be necessary to carry out a further site investigation to refine the search area to identify whether this work is authorised and whether enforcement action is necessary.

Thank you for bringing this matter to the Council’s attention. If you wish to be kept informed on the progress of these investigations please contact Julie Williams (Enforcement Manager) on 01443 494772, however I would ask that you allow 2 weeks for the preliminary research to be completed.”

No doubt after investigations Development Control found nothing wrong?

On the other hand looking at it from another point why do we allow directors on local authorities to be paid exorbitant amounts of money when regulations are not followed and nothing is done?

Don’t hold up much hope for the proposed opencast mine will the company run roughshod over planning law?

Below extracts from a planning application, the question is, are they worth the paper they are written on?

The entire application site is designated as a Proposed Site of Importance for Nature Conservation (SINC) in the draft local development plan.

The officer also identifies a preference for additional information regarding the presence of great crested newts (GCW) on a pond near the application site.

Technical Advice Note No. 6: Agricultural and Residential Development, 2000
Section 3 requires the Local Planning Authority to take into account the quality of agricultural land and to seek to minimise adverse effects on the environment.

Following the occupation of the approved agricultural buildings, no outside storage (including surplus soil or infilling material) shall occur on the site, unless details of such storage have been previously submitted and agreed in writing with the Local Planning Authority.

Notwithstanding the submitted application details, no development shall take place until there has been submitted to and approved by the Local Planning Authority a comprehensive scheme of landscaping, which confirms the extent of tree removal on land within the applicant’s control and proposed mitigation planting.

Reason: To ensure that appearance of the new development is appropriate for its countryside location, in accordance with Policy ENV1 of the Rhondda Cynon Taf (Cynon Valley) Local Plan.

Before any work is commenced on site, including site works of any description, a tree protection fence shall be erected adjacent to existing trees along the east, west and northern boundary of the application site on either land edged red or blue on the submitted location plan. The precise position and materials of this fence shall be previously submitted to and approved in writing by the Local Planning Authority. This fence shall be retained until construction activities are completed. No materials or temporary buildings or surplus soil of any kind shall be placed within the area so fenced, unless otherwise agreed in writing with the Local Planning Authority.

Reason: To protect the existing trees on and adjacent the site during the course of construction activities in the interests of amenity and biodiversity in accordance with Policies ENV1, ENV16 and CON4 of the Rhondda Cynon Taf (Cynon Valley) Local Plan.

You, like me Lewis appear to be uncovering the frauds at RCTBC. I wonder where their true interests lay?

Its not with the public and that for sure!

Yes I do believe this area formed part of the Bryn Defaid Coal Mine recorded within the National Monuments Record of Wales this is an archaeological site on the Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments website.

Would that make any difference to RCT? Ask the local councillors they are in charge

Three councillors but not one living in Llwydcoed well there you go

How many of our historic buildings and sites have been demolished? another one on the way Aberdare Hospital

St. Michael's and All Angels College, Abernant
Religion played a major part in the community in the nineteenth century, St. Michael's and All Angels College was established in Aberdare in 1892 at Abernant House the former residence of ironmaster Richard Fothergill. The Theological College was opened to train clergymen for the four Welsh Dioceses. The College founded by Miss Olive Talbot of Margam Park was transferred to Llandaff in 1907.

Going back to the historical site Blaenavon has world heritage what do we have in RCT?

Do you think then Lewis that this opencast will be approved?

I cant see the council allowing this one as its so close to the houses which is not the same as Tower was.

When will RCT be making a decision on this application then?

Depends who will give the final approval or rejection, local councillors will vote against to save face and think of the next election (if that counts with the negative response with voters in Cynon Valley)

Then there is the prospect of jobs that counts for something in this climate with little prospects in Cynon Valley, as with most projects of this size I assume the Assembly will have the last word irrespective of what RCT councillors vote for.

They will have as usual an environmental impact investigation write lots of meaningless reports to satisfy public opinion and proceed with whatever the government want at that time.

If the action committee can bring about a great deal of public interest and sufficient people are concerned about public health, the impact on the village of Llwydcoed Abernant and surrounding area highways etc then perhaps they may halt the opencast mine application being approved. There is a list of local elected representatives on the above posting they should be the people to contact first, they need the general public and press on their side with plenty of publicity.

“When will RCT be making a decision on this application then?” if and when it comes in front of the Development Control Committee, I haven’t seen the application advertised as yet.

As for Tower it was a done thing before the Application was applied for I think everyone knew that.

There again when did RCTC take notice of public opinion and planning laws?

The Pontypridd Park Paddling pool for one and then the lack of commitment from local councillors and Development Control Department managers, the question is why don’t they do their jobs is it a lack of interest laziness or some other reason?

Perhaps they don’t know the importance of Development Control?

Aberpergwm mine, Glynneath: Shutdown causes 290 job losses

American firm Walter Energy announced in October it was consulting on a shutdown process, blaming poor economic conditions and a fall in demand.

If there's a fall in demand for coal at this time what is the need for another opencast mine at Llwydcoed?


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Use the internet wisely and dispel the many falsehood that they feed you.


Author: Nigel Wheeler, Service Director, Streetcare Services
Tel: 01443 827707


The purpose of this report is to inform Members of.

1.1 The current collaborative working arrangements with Merthyr Tydfil County Borough Council.

1.2 Further proposed collaborative working arrangements regarding the disposal of residual waste.

It is recommended that Members:

2.1 Approve the request from Merthyr Tydfil County Borough Council to take over its waste disposal function as provided for in Section 101 of the local
Government Act 1972 and that the associated waste is then disposed of at the Council’s Bryn Pica facility until long-term waste treatment arrangements are in place.

2.2 Note that any approval should be dependant on the successful conclusion of an appropriate and legally-binding inter authority agreement entered into between the Council and Merthyr Tydfil County Borough Council.


3.1 Members will already be aware that the Council is working in partnership with Merthyr Tydfil and Newport Councils on a project to treat the food waste collected by the three Authorities.

3.2 The original project included an option to allow the Councils to consider additional proposals for the treatment and diversion from landfill of residual waste. In this context residual waste is the waste remaining after recycling and reuse initiative have been maximised.

3.3 Newport Council is part of the Prosiect Gwyrdd collaboration but Rhondda
Cynon Taf and Merthyr Tydfil have continued to explore opportunities for partnership working in relation to the treatment of residual waste.

3.4 Rhondda Cynon Taf currently landfills residual waste at its Bryn Pica facility in Llwydcoed. Merthyr Tydfil has been tied into a long-standing arrangement to landfill waste at Biffa’s Trecatti facility.

3.5 Merthyr Tydfil’s arrangement with Biffa ends on March 31 stand there is no opportunity to extend this contract.


4.1 Rhondda Cynon Taf and Merthyr Tydfil are currently exploring the option of a joint, long-term contract for the treatment of residual waste at a merchant facility.

4.2 Several companies have planning permission for sites in the region and at least one plant is under construction. Several more plants are being developed within Wales and the surrounding area. 4.3 The Councils are in discussion with the Welsh Government to explore funding opportunities for both the procurement process and a subsidy against the subsequent gate fee.

4.4 However, any merchant solution is 12 to 18 months away and a more immediate but albeit interim solution is required.


5.1 Merthyr Tydfil has several options to deal with its waste prior to the advent of a long-term treatment solution in partnership with Rhondda Cynon Taf. The realistic options are for Merthyr Tydfil to.
 Tender the work via an EU procurement process.
 Formerly delegate its waste disposal function to another Local authority (in this case, Rhondda Cynon Taf) under Section 101 of the local Government Act 1972.

5.2 Both options are compliant with EU regulations and, therefore, eliminate any risk of challenge by potential competitors. However, the first of these options will take several months to develop and so Merthyr Tydfil CBC are keen to progress the second option.

5.3 It should be noted that such an arrangement will have a time period identified and agreed. It should also be noted that waste/recycling collections and any associated targets will be unaffected by this arrangement and will remain with Merthyr Tydfil.

5.4 Merthyr Tydfil produces around 15k tonnes of residual waste per annum and Rhondda Cynon Taf’s waste disposal facility at Bryn Pica has ample capacity to take this waste.

5.5 Although if this proposal is approved Rhondda Cynon Taf will take over Merthyr Tydfil’s waste disposal function, it will still pay its own market gate fee for the tonnage of waste that is land filled.

5.6 The Councils are currently preparing a draft inter authority agreement (IAA) that will set out the detailed terms and conditions of this arrangement (should it be approved) including, payment details, anticipated tonnage and duration.


5.1 Merthyr Tydfil has no outlet for its residual waste from April 2013.

5.2 The Bryn Pica facility is operating well under its agreed capacity limit due to aggressive pricing policies introduced by other waste operators.

5.3 Amgen Cymru and this Council will benefit from the income generated by this arrangement.

5.4 Collaborative working in the short-term will assist longer-term partnership working that will benefit both Authorities.

Government up and down the country is giving permission for environmentally destructive schemes, and this in spite of their voiced commitment to protecting the environment and cutting back on green house gas emissions.

So clearly they don't believe the wording of their own promises. We've seen it here too in Cynon Valley, where the environmental spokesman for RCT Council made many noises in the air about how concerned he was with the future of our environment, but still offered no opposition to plans to opencast at the Tower site.

I know the old yaw about jobs always rises when such proposals arise. Make a little inquiry though, and ask how many local people are actually employed at the Tower site. You'll be dismally shocked.

Anyway, that aside, coal is still the dirtiest fuel of all. It is responsible for most of the damage to our environment and more importantly, our atmosphere. But hey, it's jobs, right? Wreck the planet, but it helps the local economy. It's the same argument in Brazil and Africa, where vast acres of trees are cut down to supply dubious jobs and keep a few rich boys in the manner to which they've grown accustomed.

And the same is happening right here, and will happen in Llwydcoed. So what's all this hot air the politicians, at local and national level, keep spouting about greenhouse gas emissions, and how we must care for the planet for future generations? We've heard it all before, but none of it matters when the profit motive is hanging like a big carrot in front of their noses, and they and the local jobless blind themselves to the consequences.

These people would destroy us all rather than see their profits run away from them. Let's face reality: we are heading for crisis as a species because we still haven't learnt that if we wreck our environment and the air we breathe, then we are done for, and many other species along with us.

Coal burning is a major contributor to that problem, and those who deny it are wantonly creating the situation for their own ends. The science, after decades of research and observation, is adamant that we have this problem, and we are its major source.

So, if the site at Llwydcoed gets the green light for this project, we will at least know where exactly the priorities of our politicians lie; and you can be sure that protecting our environment for ourselves and future generations is not even on their agenda.

Applications Registered between 29/04/2013 and 03/05/2013

Application Ref: 13/0421/10

Application Type: Full planning permission

[DB] Date Registered: 29/04/2013

Development of Bryn Defaid Surface Mine for the extraction of coal and associated ancillary activities including restoration and subsequent aftercare of the full development site.

GRID REFERENCE 301000, 206000).

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Dr M Gandy
Celtic Energy Limited
9 Beddau Way
Castlegate Business Park
CF83 2AX

@RCTCBCtwaddle: Is it correct and appropriate to bury clinical waste marked for incineration at Bryn Pica? @RCTCouncil @NatResWales