Watched a BBC wales program about poverty in Wales, where one woman gets £300 per week and then hands over £50.00 to Brighthouse for her Settee and TV. Is it me or is the world going bonkers for brighthouse, no more than a loan company heaping debt onto poor people.
The whole stinking economic
The whole stinking economic system we live under is all about debt. Keep the proles in debt and they're easily manipulated. They won't want human rights when they're threatened with eviction or loss of their jobs, and all the other indignities that this stinking, capitalist system heaps upon us.
Communism has failed, and so has capitalism. We need a new system that sees us as human beings, with basic needs to be satisfied like homes, food, education and health care. We are just pawns in a capitalist game to be manipulated for the profit of the few.
Until this lousy corruption is obliterated we will continue to languish in a dark age of exploitation and deprivation. As far as I can see, the people who impose this system upon the rest of us still haven't crawled out of the caves yet, and until the system changes we will always be under the heel of exploitation.
This poverty is no accident. It has been deliberatley created, and the system that created it is that of the bent financiers, who are no more than mafia criminals who have the politicians in their pay. Thus, the present economic debacle is not going to be solved until these criminals are brought to heel.
And who will do that? So far, as far as I can see, there's nobody with the gumption to take up the challenge, and so we'll stumble along from one crisis to the next, because it suits this criminal elite to keep it that way.
Poverty will remain a scourge upon the human race, because it takes thousands of poor people to keep one rich man in the manner to which he has become accustomed. And they don't want that fact to change in any way.
There used to be a system
There used to be a system operated in South Wales where shops were owned by the colliery and it was where you could purchase household goods on credit. It was just another way to make profit out of the poor. If also involved schemes where the cost of credit would be lower if you agreed to have payments deducted directly from the wage packet. Such schemes were outlawed by the Truck Act 1887, which forced all the coal owners to pay the complete wage packet in coin. At about this time, radical friendly societies were set up, which involved housing clubs, mutual societies owned by it's members who used capital to build furnished housing, and the person housed, instead of deductions being made from the colliery wage had ownership of the fruits of their labour and could apply them according to the means of exchange in such mutual arrangements. There was also the establishment of 'street shops' as a replacement of company 'rental buying', when the Shop Club Act 1902 came into force. It reminds me of why the street I grew up in had a shop and the houses were built by a mutual society. It was called New Century Street. Since then, of course, there has been a leap back into the 19th Century with 'Brighthouse' and 'Wonga dot com". I apologise to any Labour Party members in RCT for using such terms as 'fruits of their labour' and 'means of exchange'. These are terms removed from your political constitution. Poverty is not inevitable, we can stop it by voting for a political party who is prepared to change things. Time for the people of Wales to take back what we once had. Sorry for being so outwardly political in this post, y ddraenen, I come from a tradition that established the Labour Party, hence the history lesson. It's also why I'm Plaid.
What are you stupid people
What are you stupid people talking about? The poor are poor because they are too lazy to do anything for themselves. Businesses like Brighthouse and Wonga dot com are on the ball, they have come in at just the right time, they should charge whatever interest they like. As more and more benefits are cut, the scroungers will not be able to pay back what they have borrowed. The Government should make the law hard on people who borrow money while living on state handouts. Good luck to people like Brighthouse I hope you profit well.
Don't quite get your logic
Don't quite get your logic cocoman.."As more and more benefits are cut, the scroungers will not be able to pay back what they have borrowed."....erm....if any business lends to people who cannot pay the debt back, the business will eventually go bankrupt! Have the last 4 years or so totally passed you by cocoman?? That's the cause of this mess in the first place...banks lending money willy nilly to people who obviously didn't have the means to pay it back.
i cannot understand why loco
i cannot understand why loco coco doesn't understand that it's time to learn to read and write and not have one of his peons to tape his meanderings,because after all the millions spent on education, he had a threepenny bits worth.manifesting itself in the form of a 1st class honours degree in industrial idiocy.,and stupid people like me bothering to recognise
his presence on here by wasting our time reacting to his twaddle
Are you on benefits dmj?
Are you on benefits dmj?
The company put in charge of
The company put in charge of getting claimants off benefits and into work has had its contract ended because of fraud. A4e is also subject to a police investigation into fraud allegations with eight people so far arrested. And before anyone forgets, A4e got its feet under the table with welfare-to-work contracts in 2001 under a Labour government.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18070203
Is this one of Cocomans scroungers?
The company who carry out
The company who carry out the medical assessments on behalf of the DWP is called Atos Healthcare, they are doing an excellent job, and they have NOT got a blemish against their name. You should be very careful what accusations you make.
Atos Healthcare ? ATOS
Atos Healthcare ?
ATOS ...(a) have 12 of their doctors currently under investigation by the General Medical Council over misconduct in relation to their duty of care to patients. (b) were sacked by PCTs in England because their provision of GPs services 'fell well short of required standards'. (c) the Advertising Standards Authority upheld a complaint brought against Atos. It made false claims about the number of referrals and the number of 'healthcare professionals" it employed claiming that they were doctors when in fact most of them had just done a correspondence course.
Oh, and just to confirm, of their 55 'assessment centres' only 28 have disabled parking.
One of their employees, Dr Ikidde, who qualified in Nigeria, was found to be working for Atos while on sick leave from an accident and emergency department.
Not a blemish against their name?
Atos is creaming £100
Atos is creaming £100 million a year from the taxpayer even though it has a failure rate of almost 70%. Another company involved with Atos, Unum has been discredited and banned in 15 states of the USA and six other countries worldwide.
Between January and August last year 1,100 people died whilst waiting for appeals against the Atos decision to remove them from sickess benefit. These appeals can still be heard and back payments made to the deceased families.
I think you should both look
I think you should both look again at what you are saying. Atos Healthcare has an excellent reputation. I do agree that the number of appeals that are brought are high, but this is because the people who have been found fit for work are bitter. 95% of appeals are turned down anyway, it is just a further expense on the state. Lain Duncan smith is looking hard into the appeal system, there is many things he can do. For example, he could take away the Independent Tribunal and hand the job over to a private company who would work closely with the DWP by cutting the number of people who would be allowed to appeal. I also agree that the people who carry out these assessments are not all Doctors, but they are all fully trained Medical Professionals. So I can assure you that Atos Healthcare are working well within the law in this country.
Perhaps Cockman you should
Perhaps Cockman you should browse the internet for a while, just Google Atos Healthcare and you'll find your screen flooded with rather less than flattering revelations about the company.
Even medical journals are critical.
http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/main-content/-/article_display_list/13584314...
The appeals upheld against Atos are currently running at 38%. They are using people that have no medical training whatsoever to carry out examinations. Would you take your car to a painter and decorator to be serviced.
Come on people coco has
Come on people coco has hijacked this thread, how dare you spoil it with facts...
One further thing I have to
One further thing I have to add to this thread is that my wife and I paid a visit to Barry Island on Tuesday of this week. We had not been there for over 40 years. Anyway, Barry Island has changed for the better; a very pleasant place to visit. Whilst there we met up with a couple from Eastern Europe, Slovakia in fact, with their little baby girl of seven months. They've been in Wales four years now, and love the place. So much so that they're buying a house near Newport and will send the little child to a Welsh school when she's old enough.
The strange thing is that within a few weeks of being here they had both found jobs in the catering industry. I have found this to be the case with many from foreign climes who settle in Britain. Within a short period of time they've found the means to support themselves without having to claim dole or benefits, many of which they can't anyway.
Now my question is this: How come these people find jobs, whereas our own indigenous natives seem to languish on state handouts?
Am I missing something here?
My thought exactly!
My thought exactly!
The thing you are missing is
The thing you are missing is the EASY BENEFITS On OFFER
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Charlie Elphicke (Dover) (Con): It is a pleasure to speak in this debate, and I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Redcar (Ian Swales) on securing it. I wish to discuss an area that has not been so deeply explored this evening, although it is the area where we are not as powerless as we are in so many areas of this debate because of international obligations. I wish to focus on companies in receipt of money from taxpayers under Government contracts.
I have undertaken a study of technology companies that benefit from taxpayers’ money under Government contracts and have found that Oracle, Xerox, Dell, CSC and Symantec paid no corporation tax whatsoever last year, despite earning more than £474 million from Government contracts and having a UK turnover of £7 billion. Overall, my study of 10 technology companies in receipt of more than £1.8 billion of taxpayers’ money found that they paid just £78 million in taxes on UK earnings of just over £17.5 billion of turnover. On the basis of group profitability—we are looking at the consolidated international group here—the 10 technology
I've argued about the tax
I've argued about the tax dodgers for years, and this government, same as the last, flatly refuses to chase them up on it. They'll hound the benefits claimants instead as they're an easy target. Now two wrongs don't make a right, and those who refuse to look for a job and are content to live off the backs of the rest of us are also parasites.
True, they don't suck as much blood out of us as the tax dodgers, but they still make me angry that they still can afford the flat screen tellies and their fags and booze. Not all of them by any means, as living on benefits is not a bed of roses for many.
Still, the tax dodgers are the real enemies of this country, the ones who drain us of vital resources in order to live in the luxurious manner to which they've become accustomed. If Cameron and his gang clamp down on them first, then I'll go along with his plan to nail the benefits scroungers next.
He won't of course, because he knows the rich parasites personally and they have a direct line to his office if they wish to complain about his unjust curbing of their nefarious activities.
Bright house suck the life
Bright house suck the life blood out of people who cant afford 42" tv's and leather settee's
Cocoman is going to buy me a
Cocoman is going to buy me a Sony KDL55HX853 because he loves benefit claimants. 42''. I'm not taking a size cut. I'll put my 40'' in the bedroom.
Does that come with HD and
Does that come with HD and surround sound??
HD and surround sound well
HD and surround sound well yes coco has the cash
No to be fair I don't think
No to be fair I don't think I'd trust Cocoman to pick a surround sound system for me. Would he have the knowledge to be able to marry up the correct blu-ray player to the right a/v receiver and likewise pick the right speakers.
Or he could buy me a boat to help me get around the valley............bring back the snow!!!